How to Meditate: Meditation 101 for Beginners
10 Science-Backed Benefits of Meditation
What is Meditation?
How to Meditate: Meditation 101 for Beginners
10 Science-Backed Benefits of Meditation
What is Meditation?
Benefits of Mindfulness: Mindful Living Can Change Your Life
Mindfulness 101: A Beginner's Guide
Joseph offers practical guidance on walking the path to mindful living with more wisdom, ease and lightness. Includes a 15min mindfulness practice.
I'm your host Melli O'Brien and I'm
just so delighted and truly honored to
have with me today Joseph Goldstein.
Joseph has really been a pioneer in
bringing Eastern wisdom to the West.
And he's certainly one of the world's
most respected Buddhist teachers.
He's been practicing
meditation, I think, since 1967.
So, over 40 years and under the guidance
of some of the world's really eminent
teachers in Burma, in India and Tibet.
And then he went on to found, or
co-found the Insight Meditation
Society and the Barre Center for
Buddhist Studies in Massachusetts.
And he's also the author of several
really wonderful books on mindfulness,
meditation, and conscious living.
The latest title, which I think anyone
watching this summit would be particularly
interested in, is Mindfulness:
A Practical Guide To Awakening.
So, Joseph, thank you so much for taking
the time to share your wisdom today.
It's really a pleasure to be here.
And so as I see it, we have such a gift
having you here because you have walked
the path to mindful living that so many
of us are, and so many people watching
this summit have really just started to
walk on or they're kind of a little ways
up the path, but it's really wonderful,
because what I'd like to talk to you
today is, you know, maybe you can point
out to us the little pitfalls that we
could watch out for and give us these
little pieces of advice that could
perhaps make this journey more skillful,
more easeful and, you know, we could
walk this path with some more wisdom.
So that's what I'd like to
kind of talk to you about.
But my first question to you is
about this book title, Mindfulness:
A Practical Guide To Awakening.
And so my question to you,
Joseph, is awakening from what?
And maybe even awakening into what?
Well, there are many ways to describe the
culmination of the path, which is really,
in some sense, the goal of the practice
in terms of the teachings of the Buddha.
As we know, the mindfulness now
is spreading in very secular
domains, which is wonderful.
It's really getting out there as a
technology for living more mindfully.
But in the context of the
Buddha's teaching, it actually
is about a path to awakening.
And I think it's probably most
pragmatically described as that
freedom of the mind that is purified
of greed and hatred and delusion.
Those are the three unwholesome routes
in the mind of all unskillful actions.
So that's what we would be awakening from?
We would be awakening
from those mind states.
We could call it afflictive emotions or
mind states, and we could say awakening
into peace, awakening into love,
awakening into wisdom, into compassion.
And so those mind states of
greed, delusion, and hatred,
they would be suffering, right?
So we would kind of be, those are
the things that cause suffering.
So you could say we were waking
up from suffering and into...
And I like that formulation
because it's very pragmatic.
It's not dealing so much in some
abstraction of the highest good.
It's very specific.
And given the choice of being
more greedy or less greedy.
Let's, let's go for less greedy.
Or less anger or less ignorance.
So it's, it's very
applicable to our lives.
And that strikes me as something that's
actually quite, a practitioner can really
see that, that's something that you can
really investigate and it's quite, well,
not exactly tangible, but it is really,
you can investigate yourself and go well,
is there these mindsets present right now?
And I think that's the
great power of mindfulness.
Mindfulness is the tool for
that kind of introspection.
It's really a methodology for
looking inwards at our minds.
And so coming back to asking you some
advice about what I'm really interested
in hearing from your perspective,
from your own experience, and from
your years of teaching, what do
you see are the common pitfalls or
the common challenges that sort of
you've seen come up again and again?
And any advice on handling
those with more skill and ease?
Well, one of the very common pitfalls,
I think, is people forgetting that
this is a practice, which means we need
to begin again and again and again.
It's not as if we suddenly get
the teachings and then it's a
linear path upward to greater
and greater enlightenment.
There are a lot of ups
and downs on the path.
There are times when we're
aware and then we forget.
A common pitfall is for people either to
get discouraged in the face of that, or
begin to doubt or to have self judgement.
Oh, I can't do this.
It's too hard.
It's not for me.
It's good, but it's not for me.
A whole range of self doubt
can come in, or self judgment.
So I think it's really important to
reinforce the understanding that these
ups and downs are part of the path,
that everybody goes through them.
And we can learn from the times
when we fall off or fall back.
And to realize that in any moment,
the practice is to simply begin again.
And we do that repeatedly.
So I think that's very helpful to begin
to free the mind from getting lost or
believing the self doubt or self judgment.
Realizing the commonality
of how the path unfolds.
One thing I've noticed with that and
I'd be curious to know whether you've
seen this as well is that people who are
very committed, very deeply committed
to the path to conscious living, they
often seem to feel like they have failed
somehow when they suffer deeply or when
they do something, they behave in a way
that that's reactive rather responsive.
It wasn't their highest, but they feel,
I think, so discouraged and so deeply.
Like self-judgment comes in and
self-criticism so deeply at that point
where they feel like they've failed.
But in fact, is that what you're
saying is that's not a failure.
It's part of the natural ebb and flow.
And not only is it natural and everybody
goes through that, but perhaps equally
important is that, for me, those are
the times that can provoke the most
interest and the most investigation.
And so when I find my mind in a
state of some distress or suffering
or something, this reactivity.
Instead of going down the path of
self judgment, for me especially over
all these years, I get tremendously
interested in, okay, what's going on in
the mind that's causing the suffering.
Where am I attached?
Where am I pushing away?
What am I holding on to?
And very often it's the times
of the greatest suffering that
lead to the greatest insight.
But we need to cultivate
that quality of interest.
And for me, interest has been, I
think, the most beneficial quality
in the mind to sustain the practice.
If we're interested in what's
happening, whether it's in wonderful
states of mind or really difficult
ones, if we're interested, then
it really leads to understanding.
That really resonates
with my own experience.
There's so much to learn when out
of situations of the suffering.
And, of course, it simply reflects
in a very direct way the Buddhist
teaching on the four novel truths.
The truth you could say of suffering
or unsatisfactoriness, some difficulty.
And then it goes on.
Okay, what's the cause of it?
And there is an end.
What is the path to the end?
So it's all aware in those moments.
It's like, at that point it's not
Buddhist philosophy, it's our lives.
And that's what brings it to life.
I love that.
And yeah, like I say, that really
resonates very deeply with my own
experience of that curiosity being,
that fascination in what's going on.
It brings, I guess, it opens
inner space as well to relate to
that experience so differently.
So I love that.
So one thing that we can do in those times
of challenge, when things aren't all roses
and pancakes, so to speak, it's getting
gritty, is we can bring curiosity to that
experience and actually use that as a
time of greatest insight and learning.
Yes, I mean first, we can learn or
we can really hone in on precisely
what it is that's going on.
And so instead of just a general
feelling of suffering or unease, we
say, okay, what actually is this.
Is there jealousy, or envy or aversion,
or fear, or pride, or it could
be any one of a number of things.
And so mindfulness allows us to become
quite specific in recognizing what it is.
And then the second step, which is a
key component of mindfulness, which may
often be forgotten, and that is it's not
enough to simply recognize the present
experience, but we also need to look at
how we're relating to that experience.
Because a common tendency would be,
for example with an unpleasant emotion,
and I worked with this a lot myself
with the emotion of fear, and so that
was my primary historical difficulty.
I would see it come up in so
many different situations.
And I thought that by recognizing
it, I was being mindful of it.
But the recognition was
just the first step.
And it took me a long time to realize that
yes, I was recognizing it and even noting
it, all the time, wanting it to go away.
So but actually there was aversion to it.
So in that situation, we're recognizing
it, but we're not actually being mindful.
We're not allowing it to be as
it is because we're trying to...
And it's that step of acceptance
which actually allows it to pass
through, that's the freeing aspect.
So I think that's a very important
component of mindfulness to call to mind
how we are relating to what's happening.
And another thing I'm really curious
about is as we, as practitioners, begin
to walk this path, or again, for many
people who have been on the path for
some time, are there, as you see it
or from the Buddhist perspective, are
there stages that we can expect to go
through and what would that look like?
Well I think the unfolding of the path
can be marked in different contexts.
So there's one unfolding of meditation.
And as the mindfulness gets
stronger, there are very distinct
stages that are well mapped.
And so for people really involved,
particularly in intensive practice,
where they spend periods of time
perhaps on retreat, then the mind
just go through different stages.
And a lot of the progression of the
stages has to do with, in some way,
a refinement of the understanding
of change and impermanence.
So, so many of the stages can be marked
by how deeply and how clearly we're
seeing the impermanent momentary nature.
And of course that leads to the
deeper understanding of selflessness.
Which is very hard, but the
impermanence is easy to understand.
The selflessness is not easy to
understand conceptually, but we begin
to get a taste of it in our practice.
But that's the meditative unfolding.
I think the unfolding of the stages we
can see in our lives as we practice really
comes down to some very basic things.
So are we becoming less judgmental?
Are we more at peace?
Are we more accepting?
Is there more compassion
in our relationships?
More loving kindness?
So that they really do mark the
unfolding of the path in terms of
how it's expressed in our lives.
How careful are we with our speech?
That's a huge area.
Going back to your first
question of pitfalls?
Just something else is coming to mind.
I think one of the pitfalls that people
may fall into is thinking that mindfulness
is limited to a meditative skill.
We're mindful when we're sitting
in meditation and then the rest
of our life is something else.
But it's really realizing that
mindfulness is what we want to
cultivate in everything we do.
That it's not at all limited
to just sit in practice.
And one of the big areas of interest
for me, a wonderful place to practice
is from, what I just mentioned, in
terms of becoming mindful of our speech.
Because we talk a lot
in the course of a day.
How tuned in are we to our
motives, into the quality of
it, into the usefulness of it?
So I'm a big fan of
that arena of practice.
I've heard it said quite a few times
by teachers that I really respect
that if there was just one practice
that you could commit to, it would be
mindful communication because we're
such social creatures and there's so
much opportunity for stuff to come up
when you're communicating, especially
with your nearest and dearest.
Plenty to observe.
Yes, that's very interesting.
It's very interesting to watch
just in the normal course of our
lives and interactions are very
often speech just comes tumbling
out before we really are paying
attention to, okay, what's behind it.
Is it coming from a place of
goodwill or something else?
That there really is a lot to
learn and to practice with it.
I'm curious too, we mentioned that, we
just spoke about stages of awakening,
but also the natural ebbs and flows
of the journey and my experience
and my observation is that sometimes
there's moments of dramatic sort of
realization of either selflessness
or the interconnectedness of life.
And so, though that is also seems to
be a natural part of the path too.
These moments where you have
the a-ha moment and then it
sort of ebbs back into...
And I think one way of understanding
what that would be as we practice and
we open, we'll have glimpses in this way
of really insight, then to understand
the path in some way as a path of
integrating those insights into our lives.
So it doesn't simply become a
peak experience, but it actually
transforms the way we're living.
And that's why it takes practice.
But there's a teaching by an 11th
century Korean Zen master, his name
was Jinul, and he framed the whole
teaching in a way that I really love.
He called it sudden awakening,
So it acknowledges that possibility of
a sudden awakening, on whatever level,
just an awakening to something we didn't
understand, but then the need to have the
gradual cultivation of that understanding.
And so it just combines the two aspects.
I love that.
And it reminds me, I was listening
to an interview that you did with
Sam Harris a little while ago.
And in that you spoke about one of
the challenges that you had, I think,
when you were doing vipassana of
having one of those very, I think you
described it as having a body of light.
You really have this lightness of
body and then spent two years really
grasping to try and get that back.
So I think that's another thing I'm
really glad that we can speak about
this because I feel like that's
another thing that can often happen
for practitioners of conscious living.
We kind of have one of those
experiences and then we're
like, oh, I'm not there anymore.
Therefore I've failed or this
is not working or whatever.
No, that's a really important point
because it's so easy to become
attached to a wonderful experience.
So, even a genuinely transforming one, but
then we become attached to it, forgetting
that everything is subject to the law of
change, and that will inevitably change.
And that the fact that it changes
is not incorrect practice.
The holding onto it is
the incorrect practice.
And, and so learning that just to be
with it as it unfolds, knowing that
the peak experiences are not going to
last in the same way, but that they
still can have impact in our lives.
That's, I'm glad that we spoke about that.
Are there other misconceptions or
misunderstandings that you commonly
see either from practitioners, but also
maybe from the outside, from people who
don't really know much about meditation?
What are the common misconceptions
that you think people have about
what meditation can and cannot
do or can and cannot deliver?
And any thoughts on clearing
those misconceptions up?
Well, I mean, one common misconception,
I think on the one side, is it's
going to suddenly enlighten us and
we're going to be in a state of bliss.
Forever and ever and ever.
Yes, or even for the next sitting.
And so equating meditation or the
purpose of meditation as being some
blissful state, and then of course
it's disappointing when we realize
that that may come from time to time,
but that's not either what happens
or really is it the purpose of it.
All of the teachings and really the
deepest, deepest understanding of
what mindfulness can bring comes from
a spiritual perspective, although
this is a spiritual perspective
that manifests in our daily lives.
But all the practices, all the methods,
all the different traditions, they're
are all in the service of non clinging.
And in the Buddhist teachings, for
example, very often you find the
phrase 'liberation to non clinging.'
And so I think it's important, as we
undertake the practice, that that's
the context in which it's understood.
Because sometimes people can
get attached to a method.
They think this is what's important,
forgetting that the method is simply in
the service of this freeing of the mind.
There was a writer whose pen name was
Wei Wu Wei, and he wrote many books.
He actually was a European
who lived a long time in Asia.
And he had some very deep realization
as is evidenced in his books.
We have a lot of very short aphorisms
which was captured at different points.
And one of them was what are many
devotees doing, worshiping the
teapot instead of drinking the tea.
And so this again is something
that if we really understand
that, I think it undercuts perhaps
the tendency to sectarianism.
Where people get attached to a
particular way or a particular method,
forgetting that it's all a skillful
means for not clinging, because
that's where the freedom of mind is.
And that's universal.
And that can be accomplished
in so many ways.
I love the simplicity of that
saying, that's really beautiful.
And I'm also really interested
in your take on this as well.
I've really noticed, I really
have a real love for looking at
all the world's different wisdom
traditions and spiritual teachings.
I'm just fascinated by the whole, the
different ways that people do that.
And what I've noticed, and I'm curious
to see whether you've noticed this as
well, is that what you were saying just
then about not clinging, that seems
to be the teaching that's everywhere.
For instance, in the Bhagavad Gita, when
they talk about karma yoga, it's just
doing things consciously without any
attachment to the fruit of your actions
and that teaching just appears as far
as I can see in almost all the world's
wisdom traditions that I've found.
Do you think, Joseph, that there is a
perennial philosophy, one universal?
Is that a universal
thread as you see it, or?
I can't really say with any authority
since I haven't done a study of
all the world's religions, but it
certainly is a thread in many of them.
And so, certainly in the ones
that I'm familiar with, I think
that that captures the essence.
And in fact it was that very teaching
from the Bhagavad Gita that in some ways
set me on this whole path because I came
across it when I was still in college.
I was a freshman in college, first
year, taking a course in Eastern
philosophy, studying the Bhagavad Gita.
This is before I knew anything about
Buddha, I was still 17 years old.
We were reading the texts and
that line, for some reason, to act
without attachment to the fruit of
the act, in some strange way, it
just resonated so deeply within me.
I think that was the seed
for everything that followed.
And so I think it can be found
people can get inspired from
teachings in many traditions.
And we also both know as well that
there's also been in some traditions
as well, they've been overlaid with
some what seems like extraneous matter.
But it's wonderful to talk about
the heart of the harder things.
If you were to have the opportunity
to travel back in time and knowing
everything that you know now, and you
could go and sit beside your younger
self that was just about to sit for
the first time and you could give some
advice, what advice would you give?
I think I would give the advice
that my first teacher gave to
me when I first began to sit.
And it was something that
he said many, many times.
It was kind of his mantra.
And it was such a helpful
reminder to me over many years.
This phrase kept coming
back again and again.
He said, Be simple and easy."
Simple and easy about things.
And so simple and easy.
Yes, simple and easy.
So when we take things in that
way, we're simple and easy,
it becomes simple and easy.
And it's not that things are always that
we don't have difficulties, but can we
hold it with that kind of naturalness.
Yeah, the whole, all lives are
an unfolding, as we said earlier,
with a lot of ups and downs.
So in a way, it's learning not to
overdramatize our lives or our experience,
not to exaggerate in some way what's
happening, but rather to be fully
engaged with it in a simple and easy way.
Even in times of suffering, oh,
there's fear here or there's desire.
Whatever it may be, can we be
with it in that way which allows
us to really develop a wisdom?
Because there are many other kinds of
advice that one could give too, but
that one has really, I so appreciate it.
Just that those qualities
were very helpful to me.
And I'm sure that advice will
be very helpful too, to a lot of
other people watching this as well.
It really has to do with the
quality of learning to be
accepting and nonjudgmental.
All of that is implied
in being simple and easy.
And it's interesting, even as you said
that, I don't know if you notice, but even
when you just gave that piece of advice,
my whole body just kind of went, oh yeah.
It does undercut that and undercuts
many things, a lot of self judgment or
doubt, but also kind of an unskillful
striving where we get caught up
in a wanting that's not helpful.
Oh yeah, just be simple and easy.
Be with what's happening.
I love that.
Is there anything else that
you would like to share?
Anything that sort of come to mind
or you think is really important
that we should know about this this
journey to more conscious living?
Well, I guess there are two
things that come to mind.
The first, is something mentioned before,
but I think is worth emphasizing, right?
It's really about the
totality of our lives.
That it's the practice to become
more aware in whatever we're doing.
Whatever activity just throughout
the day, are we practicing coming
back to the moment and being mindful?
In an easy and simple life.
And realizing it's not
going to be perfect.
We'll get lost many times,
but we just beginning again.
And so having a very comprehensive view
of how mindfulness can be practiced.
The other thing that I think is
really important is the understanding
that it is a practice, that it takes
some discipline and perseverance.
It's not, I don't know whether this
happened in Australia, but quite
a few years ago, maybe it was in
the seventies or eighties, there
was a movement, or workshops being
presented, enlightenment weekends.
Damn, I should have gone.
You know, you go to this
weekend and you get enlightened.
And there may be something of value
that you gain, but I doubt that it
was enlightenment that the Buddha
was talking of, in terms of the
uprooting of greed and hatred.
So it's understanding that
we're talking about a vast
transformation of consciousness.
And we can have, and I have, just a
tremendous, almost a sense of awe,
in the undertaking of the path.
We realize this is a huge thing.
This is not, it's not a hobby.
It's something that is our lives
and the exploration of the nature of
consciousness and what creates suffering
and what are the avenues to peace.
So having this appreciation of
the magnitude of the undertaking
and therefore the need for some
discipline and perseverance,
or a kind of courage, I think.
I love the sense of bringing courage
to the path because it's kind of
that strength of heart that's willing
to go through and be with the ups
and the downs and the difficulties.
And so having that very large
vision of the undertaking to
me is tremendously inspiring.
My own personal feeling about this path
is that it's a really grand adventure.
And in any good adventure,
there's ups and downs.
And it doesn't always go to plan.
And sometimes it's the unexpected
and wonderful things and
unexpected, all kinds of things.
And then, but the adventure kind of dust
themselves off and they have that courage
to face the things that come up and yeah.
So I see it as a path
of mindful adventures.
Well, I'd love to invite you, if you'd
care to, to lead us through a practice.
How long would you like this to be?
Maybe say 10 minutes or 15 minutes.
Always need to frame it, otherwise
we might be sitting for an hour.
Yeah, 10 to 15 minutes would be wonderful.
If everyone listening who wants
to practice together can find
a comfortable sitting posture.
It could be right in this chair
that you might be sitting in or
sitting in some posture on the floor.
And gently close the eyes.
Perhaps start by taking a few deep
breaths, intentional, deep breaths
as a way of settling into the body.
And then letting the breath
come to its own natural rhythm.
And begin by simply
feeling the body sitting.
Experience the felt sense
of the body sitting.
You might even make a kind of a mental
note of sitting, or a phrase that
I like to use is, here is a body.
So we get a sense of
the whole body sitting.
Sit and know you're sitting.
And within that framework of the
body sitting, you might become
aware of your body breathing.
Breathing in, know you're breathing in.
Breathing out, know you're breathing out.
It's really that simple.
You might noticed where in the body
you feel the breath most clearly.
Is it the air passing the nostrils?
Is it the movement of
the chest or abdomen?
You might become aware of different
sounds arising and passing away.
When they call at your attention,
they become the object of awareness.
You might become aware of other
sensations in the body, places
of tightness or tension or
pressure or vibration or tingling.
When the mind is called to
those sensations, they become
the new object of mindfulness.
Become aware of those sensations
and notice what happens to them.
Do they get stronger
or do they get weaker?
Do they disappear?
When they're no longer predominant,
you can settle again into the awareness
with the whole body, there is a body.
Becoming aware of the body breathing.
Whenever a thought our image arises in the
mind, become aware of thinking, of seeing.
You can use a soft mental
note: thinking, thinking.
If you tend to image, seeing.
Notice how the thought
arises and vanishes.
Simply sit and know you're sitting.
Aware of the body breathing.
Breathing in, know you're breathing in.
Breathing out, know you're breathing out.
Simple and easy.
Opening to sounds, other
sensations, thoughts and images.
Just becoming mindful of them
as they appear and disappear,
like clear space of the mind.
Notice when you become mindful of
thoughts as they arise in the mind.
To become aware after
they're already over.
Become aware in the middle.
There is sometimes mindful
just as they begin.
Simply to take interest
in mindfulness of breath.
Settling into the awareness of
the body and the body sitting.
There is a body.
Aware of the body breathing.
We're being mindfully aware of predominant
sensations, of sounds, thoughts and
images as they appear and disappear.
Awake, open, aware nature of the mind.
When you're ready, you
can slowly open your eyes.
Reconnect with the world around you.
And thank you so much for spending
this time today to share with us.
It's deeply appreciated.
You're very welcome.
Is there anything else that you'd
like to share before we close?
Nothing in particular except to encourage
people to either begin or continue
this great practice of mindfulness.
It leads to so many, as you say, new
adventures of understanding oneself.
And there's just one more question that I
have that I'm asking every person that's
taking part in this summit and that is
that it's been said that mindfulness has
the capacity to change the world from
the inside out, one person at a time.
In fact, I think you might've said that.
Well many people have said that.
I think I might've gotten that
actual phrase from something that
you said, but I'm curious to know.
They say that mindfulness has hit
mainstream, I think the idea of
it is entering mainstream, but
I certainly don't think it's hit
any kind of critical mass yet.
If it was to hit critical mass, what kind
of a world do you think that would create?
Well, I think obviously, as we said,
just in the beginning of our talk,
that it really does serve to weaken
and finally uproot, it's combination
of forces in the mind that created
so much suffering in the world.
Mindfulness can help us to reduce the
greed, the acting on greed, or reduce
the hatred or enmity in the mind.
Reduce our delusion so we actually
wake up to what is really happening and
often it's waking up to the problems
that are there and the suffering.
So it can only bring tremendous benefit.
Well, thank you again for your time.
And thanks everybody for tuning in.
I highly recommend you check
out Joseph's book, Mindfulness:
A Practical Guide To Awakening.
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Just a small sample of the life-changing 5-star reviews we get on a daily basis.
Vidyamala’s tips on catching anger as it’s happening or about to happen are great - clear, practical, and doable.
The little talks before the meditations are priceless. It's like I've found my peeps. The topics, the quotes, the goals—it all makes so much sense to me, things I want to be thinking and learning about. Most importantly, the meditations are kindness-centered, which I love. It feels like a new way to approach meditation.
Incredible, easy to navigate app. I would highly recommend this app to anyone who wishes to reduce stress and anxiety or simply as an aid to improve overall mental health.
I love how the app gives me pointers to new things to explore.
So calm and soothing. I love the new bundle with Kelly Boys, she’s brilliant!
Better than Headspace. I've had the paid version of both apps, and I must say I enjoy this one better.
- Gina, Plus+ Member
I am very new to meditation, and am so happy that my first introduction to it has been through this app
The first session was fantastic. I feel safe. And supported. Almost like having someone helping me through my difficult time. I’m very grateful for this app.
You get a lot of useful tips for handling stress and anxiety in 'real life'.
Kelly Boys is hands down the best. Everytime I click on one of her guided meditations I get excited for the calmness that lies ahead.
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